[INFO] More About The Dramatic Story of Arabs Fans and KBS

KBS often does an Arabic interview with popular Kpop groups in order to help the Arabs show their love and support for their favorite band. Arab JYJ fans have been requesting JYJ members in an Arabic interview since 2010. Last May (2011), KBS Arabic section finally announced a JYJ Arabic interview. BUT KBS clarrified that it won’t happen until JYJ are back from their world tour (based on the leader’s request JJ), meanwhile Arabs can prepare their audio files (messages), gifts and anything they want to send before the interview. The news brought tears in our eyes from the happiness. We couldnt believe that our dream is being fulfilled.

Arab fans prepared many projects like videos and magazines, bought gifts and some fans had already SENT their gifts. One day, KBS wrote on its wall asking JYJ Arab Fans to STOP sending gifts. I was surprised since JYJ were on their LAST concert in the world tour and that they will be back soon so WHY STOP sending gifts?? Anyway, we followed their request and just focused on projects. JYJ finished their world tour and returned back to Korea. ALL Arabs now were waiting for the DATE of the interview to be officially released.

In the beginning of June 2011, KBS released a statement DELAYING the interview for an undefined date. I don’t know how to explain this, but imagine how hard Arabs worked for 2 months and all of a sudden news like this are published. I can never explain the sorrow that struck our hearts at the time. Many Arabs wrote to KBS and asked why? (Although many of us had already guessed, SM) KBS replied via phone “SM has nothing to do with it, KBS Arabic is seperate from the rest of the channel” thats what a fan told us when she called KBS.

Arabs still had hope. We thought may be the delay would be for a week….or 2 weeks…..may be a month?? Thats how we convinced ourselves. In addition, KBS already has some of our gifts [Exactly 4 gifts as far as I know cause I witnessed those 4, but may be more were sent]. We thought as long as our gifts are there, they can not cancel the interview or else what will happen to those gifts?? We have been waiting since June……uptill NOW.

In December 2011, an incident happened. Like I previously mentioned, Arabs did not give up hope and kept waiting (Since deep in our hearts, we thought KBS did not CANCEL, they just DELAYED). We kept writing on KBS wall, but no reply until one day me and my friends kept spamming their FB page. It ended with KBS blocking both me and my friend xD BUT one of the staff FINALLY replied and told us that he wants to call us. As soon as I heard it, I sent an email with my number. I wanted to talk to him, but I thought…may be an elder would be better?! Many fans called KBS and zero joy they had. SO, my mom said she will call him ^___^ (By the way, my mom is a Fan xD) That phone call is really important cause it confirms something.

Here is the exact translation:

Q: How is JYJ’s interview?? And What’s the problem?? why all the delay its been 7 months?

A: Last May, when KBS announced an Arabic interview with JYJ, we were really preparing and ready for it, but….when

SM Entertainment heard about this interview, KBS HAD to delay it for an undefined date.

Q: So SM is the problem??

A: KBS are waiting for the lawsuit to be solved between SM and JYJ because as long as this case is on, its nearly IMPOSSIBLE for the interview to be made.

Q: Then whats the solution now??

A: Its out of KBS’s control. KBS Arabic section really wanted to make this interview with JYJ, but its out of our hands. The only solution is to wait until the case is solved between the 2 sides.

(Hearing this, I myself lost hope cause you know this can take FOREVER)

Q: What about the gifts?? What if the interview didnt happen, What will happen to the gifts??

A: We dont know what to do with it.

(My mom suggested that, KBS sends the gifts to CJES Entertainment just as a SIGN to prove that JYJ have Arab fans who want to show their support)

KBS agreed on the solution and said they will do their best BUT asked us to wait abit more in case the issue is solved.

_____

Again, we are in February now, WAITING….T___T !!! Arabs virtually lost hope in KBS because we are now soon completing a YEAR waiting. I myself gave no care to the interview after that call BUT what I have been trying to do is the

GIFTS thing. I only wanted those gifts to be given to CJES, BUT again….KBS didn’t do it till now !! 

A Funny story to end with it all this Drama. During my challenge with KBS to try to make them give the gifts to CJES, I called KBS again and again. My latest call was January and the funniest thing you will ever hear is this:

I asked, where is our gifts?? You promised to send it?? You are not going to make us wait 7 months for 4 gifts to be sent to JYJ’s Company….

KBS replied, We are sorry, but JYJ are in Latin America RIGHT NOW……….

(LoOoOooOoOooOooOoL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I nearly choked laughing when I heard that xD I was like, I, the Arab fan who is 100000 of miles away from Korea know that JYJ are in Korea while KBS who are in Korea dont know that JYJ are in the same countryyyyy !!!

I immediately replied and told him they are in Korea. We check their news everyday and JJ’s birthday is just 2 weeks away, what will take him to Latin America Now??

KBS replied, We know we know !! 

Some of you might not believe this last converstation, but I swear it happened. I think KBS didn’t know that Arabs REALLY check JYJ news everyday. Eventually, that was Arabs Dramatic story with KBS. Untill now waiting for this interview. We tried many things to reach JYJ, but what can we do if there is no side helping?? MOST of the Kpop bands nowadays know about their Arab fans from KBS. SM even stepped in this tiny interview that would have drawn the smiles on many Arabs faces, but again….We will NEVER lose hope and we promised to work hard for JYJ and do our best to let them hear our voices ^_^ 

***This is one of the gifts that are kept by KBS, a gift that belongs to “Kim JaeJoong ~Arab Fans~. KBS took a picture of it on their OWN facebook to confirm that it reached them, take a look at the link:

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Source: JaejoongArabFans
Translation by: YaRa JaeJoongie
Shared by: JYJ3

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39 thoughts on “[INFO] More About The Dramatic Story of Arabs Fans and KBS

    • Someone should send this to news agencies. Diplomacy and waiting patiently isn’t stopping the abuse. I mean they went out of their way to block a radio interview for international listeners.

      • If they have it as a log, with written documents and recorded conversation….Yes they can include them into the lawsuit. If it goes as far as our hatred, throwing things and all the scariest killing methods ever created go, then it will not be considered as legal documents.

        I do hope they have some in written (beside air waybills) so CJes can do something about it.

        Hwaiting JYJ & JYJ fans!

      • Sadly, this kind of news no longer surprises me. The Korean media is corrupt and is in the pocket of SME. It is up to us fans to stand up for JYJ. We all need to copy what fans in South America and Turkey have done; reach out to your countries media and promote JYJ. Create a press packet for JYJ, listing their accomplishments, accolades, awards and records (first to perform in Berlin, Spain, Turkey, Peru, Chile etc). We need to talk about their humanitarian efforts that extend all over the world, from Africa to Asia. And what JYJ means to us. How JYJ has connected all of us, breaking barriers, boundaries and borders. Together as JYJ fans, we have the power to correct the wrong that is being done. I hope everyone will be motivated. The time for waiting and complaining is over.

      • All JYJ fan clubs and fan clubs for the individual member s need to work together. By unifying and becoming more organized, we can achieve a lot more. We have seen what a small group of dedicated fans can achieve. We JYJ fans are the most creative, talented and loyal fandom out there! So come on, let’s make 2012 a year to remember. I wish someone can create a place, where fans can submit JYJ promotional ideas to. And were fans can collaborate around the world. It will be Daebak.
        Ps. JYJ Admins, can you create a JYJ Promotion section 😀

      • @Kim T
        ” Together as JYJ fans, we have the power to correct the wrong that is being done. I hope everyone will be motivated. The time for waiting and complaining is over.”

        Wow, do I ever agree with you! Great post. Everything you said is 100% right.

      • @Kim T totally agree with you. We can’t just continue to stand around wringing our hands. @JYJfan, I think many of us at JYJ3 would be open to consolidating into a cohesive Fan Club. C-jeS is unwilling or unable to include I-fans into their membership rolls, at this time, so maybe we all can come together on our own. JYJ3 Admin can oversee this project, if possible; I personally would welcome it! What about it, JYJers?

  1. If anyone, ANYWHERE still thinks that this is an equitable situation, PLEASE enlighten me. The High Court in Seoul has already ruled (many months ago) on this issue– JYJ is FREE to engage in their various promotions unhindered in any way. Those found to be hindering their professional activities will be fined and censured.

    KBS, by this statement, is breaking the law in SK. How can KBS affiliates possibly justify it?

      • @Jae-is-Mine (Jae&JYJ/DBSK)
        “Perhaps because they (SME and its offsprings – including KBS) make sure that no valid evidences are to be attached to their evil deeds, or that no one who has enough gut to speak has valid evidences to start with.”

        But unless I’m mistaken, the KBS affiliate in question specifically named the SM lawsuit as the reason. (See below for a re-cap)

        A: Last May, when KBS announced an Arabic interview with JYJ, we were really preparing and ready for it, but….when

        SM Entertainment heard about this interview, KBS HAD to delay it for an undefined date.

        Q: So SM is the problem??

        A: KBS are waiting for the lawsuit to be solved between SM and JYJ because as long as this case is on, its nearly IMPOSSIBLE for the interview to be made.

        So, this being the case, C-jeS should be made aware of the specifics of the situation, it seems to me.

    • I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but any TV appearance, be it a music show or variety, happens by invitation. By not inviting JYJ to their shows, stations are not breaking any laws. If the law was – “every musician in Korea has to appear on Music Bank” – and JYJ wasn’t invited, then KBS would be breaking law.

      • @deljoon
        “I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but any TV appearance, be it a music show or variety, happens by invitation.”

        Yes, I believe that’s true. But when the KBS affiliate specifically named SM and the lawsuit as the reason for the cancellation, then I think a reasonable case can be made for collusion and interference.

      • Yes, that statement can definitely be seen as such. It was a weird move – to state that the reason is the lawsuit when the court’s ruling is clearly saying that the lawsuit cannot be a valid reason. I guess they just needed something to say. I’m curious what KBS is going to do when the lawsuit is officially resolved – I am convinced they will not invite JYJ even then because the lawsuit isn’t the reason and we know it. They will look even more stupid than usual I guess.

      • @deljoon
        “I’m curious what KBS is going to do when the lawsuit is officially resolved – I am convinced they will not invite JYJ even then because the lawsuit isn’t the reason and we know it. They will look even more stupid than usual I guess.”

        I am also vastly interested to see them squirm once the lawsuit ends, because like you I believe they aren’t going to immediately “invite” JYJ to perform either. We will have to pressure the hell out of them–shame them into it, literally.
        Then maybe they will just give up and bow to public sentiment.

  2. What a joke with all this, and the end all is because of SM…for those who not familiar with south Korea they sure will think SM is the “sk goverment”..T____T

  3. should we sent this news to our boys or the fangifts news ?
    to my dear Korean fans who also read this news can you guys help Arab fans for give some information to JYJ through C-jes, just let they know about there are fangifts that Arab fans tried to send for them
    or Arab fans can u guys get back your fangifts from those people and sent it to C-Jes

  4. I think Arab JYJ fans should send the info and pictures to Korean newspapers, at least if the info gets published, there will be pressure on KBS to at least send the gifts to CJES. When news like these come about, I always question again if South Korea is a true democratic country, because when you have corporations that seem to be able to overrule what your court says, that says something about the justice system and the society they live in.

  5. Unbelievably frustrating. Seems like the only way is to use some other means besides KBS. Take those gifts back and send them yourselves. Find another way to broadcast JYJ’s story. Find an Arabian news agency that will tell their story and tell them what has happened in your own experience with KBS.

    I was very inspired by what the Turkish fans did. Made me realize how much power fans have to help JYJ and make them happy if we do it the right way. Don’t waste our time with the Korean media and Kpop world.

  6. The Demon SME and its minions KBS are seeing the Beauty, and Talents of JYJ and they can’t Touch JYJ FEET. JYJ is the next Big Thing after MJ Explosion on the World. The younger generation including older folks love JYJ. They are bigger than Kpop Idols in their own rights, please check them out. JYJ fighting

  7. so sad…dont know what to say ..Arab fans..your love touch my heart…anyway can send this information for any medias, Korea or even some where have effective on public?? it is not only help for Arab fans but also help for CJES collect more information about SM lawsuit !!!!!

  8. What a load of crap form KBS once again! I don’t see the logic using the lawsuit as an excuse! If so, they should immediately stop all deals they have with SM as well.

  9. although I didn’t participate in any project (because I was so busy with study) but I was one of the fans who waited eagerly for this interview!! I wanted them to know that even Arabs who are so far in language and in culture, they fall in JYJ’s spell!!! they make us cry and laugh and learn from life… so I kept waiting and still waiting for them to know that we do exist T.T

  10. OMG how can they just tell a lie ” We are sorry but JYJ is in Latino america right now ” !!!!!!!!
    Well done for you KBS you have received, and will receive many more calls complaining about this. Until the day that you do what you promised.

  11. as i understand JYJ were invited and then kbs cancelled them, it isn’t the first time C-Jes itself had been upset about receiving calls telling c-jes JYJ has the okay to come and then a few days later kbs would call C-Jes and apologize saying they can’t after all this thing happens yet again here, i don’t get why C-Jes don’t take it out since i read some girls say if not invited it isn’t a case , but thats just it kbs does give an okay, it gives an okay then calls back and says sorry, and it also gives an excuse that its because of the lawsuit even though the court said JYJ are to continue on naturally, also the biggest evidence is the phonically, the phone call in this arab situation isn’t it physical proof of kbs giving promises then delays then lies to prevent JYJ from being aired ?? i think the phone call is crucial and is kbs’s slip including C-jes phone calls at the beginning of the year when the same thing happened C-jes asking kbs and kbs saying okay and then kbs saying not okay all through phone right ????? and the fact that JYJ has not appeared on music shows is another big evidence of them being banned and that’s not supposed to be legal, kbs and other music shows should be sued , sued period

    • @Pierrot

      Of course, this is just a guess… but I’m thinking that their lawyers have weighed the options and decided that there would not be enough to be potentially gained monetarily in a lawsuit to offset the massive legal fees of going up against KBS.
      Also, there is the question of public opinion – JYJ suing everyone right and left when they don’t get their way would possibly present a bad picture and lose public sentiment in their favor. Then also, there would be Bad Will at KBS in terms of a possible future relationship. Nobody wants to be “forced” to like you, especially if they’ve just been in a protracted lawsuit with you! So for these reasons and perhaps others that I am not thinking of at the moment, JYJ seems to be taking the path of steely and deferential forbearance.

  12. Well, whatever is going on between JYJ, KBS and SM, I don’t see why they can’t send their mail onto them. Clinging on to gifts and letters that sweet people spent hours making is a bit mean and thoughtless.

    I wouldn’t be too hard on the people at KBS. I know they are under the thumb but there are clearly people who work there that do want to have JYJ feature with them, but they just get over-ruled by shitty management. It’s crap, but there are people who are at least trying to get them on tv.

    • @mis
      “I wouldn’t be too hard on the people at KBS. I know they are under the thumb but there are clearly people who work there that do want to have JYJ feature with them, but they just get over-ruled by shitty management. It’s crap, but there are people who are at least trying to get them on tv.”

      Really? Well then that would represent an interesting NEW development. We haven’t heard of anyone working behind the scenes at KBS on behalf of JYJ before. What have you heard? Please tell us more….

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